Do remember Musk shut down numerous satellites right at the end of his Doge tenure . I , myself , can not believe this election was honest .. not with what happened at Ark Benton Co Centerton voting place. After seeing our votes ( my and partners ) change in their own ...just presidential pick from blue to red ...seeing it personally .. knowing it myself , and with it happening to others just as I described ,there's no way it was just a glitch ...no way it was coincidental, no way our vote for Kamala wasn't interfered with somehow. So please keep it up .....I for one ...and at least two others will never believe in this current Election that it wasn't compromised...
Hey there! Just wondering if I read your comment correctly. Are you saying that you actually saw your vote change from Harris to Trump? Or did I misunderstand? 🤔
Yes ...I voted blue all the way down ..without a doubt . Towards the end before I submitted the ballot , I realized the presidential choices had changed on its own to RED . I changed it back ,but since I voted all the way down ballot in blue ,it was obvious it had changed . Not really thinking about it other than thank God I realized it and how lucky I was to have seen that before I submitted (I hate Trump) and considered that if I'm hadn't caught it or if I had bad eyesight or was disabled I wouldn't have realized it . But that's where I just didn't think anything more since I had caught it . That was Tuesday a week before election. My partner voted on Saturday and we have a child and no sitter so we really didn't even talk about our experience voting until we went out to dinner the Sunday after the election . Then after a drink (or two) I told him what had happened and unbelievably he said the exact same thing happened to him . Exactly same thing . Presidential choice changed on its own from blue to Trump red .Then we realized it was suspicious . Because we live in a totally red state we just figured not much could be done. After speaking to my mom in Calif and she said we needed to report it ,she did and so did I .We contacted everyone we could (WH site . Waltz , Harris and Biden) left msgs and email notifications . After not hearing back my mom got the # for the DNC in Washington and I left a msg ,they called back and because we have tracking on our phones we were able to give them the complete date and time of voting .They checked and said yes our votes were verified as Democratic choices on our ballots. They did say there had been discrepancys reported . My mom then contacted Spoonmores site and a few others in substack . I've been following it closely since because I can't imagine this was just coincidental
As the former chair of my local electoral board, here in Virginia, all ballots that are cast are on paper. The vote tabulating machines undergo logic and accuracy tests before the election, and the paper ballots are audited afterwards. If there was a discrepancy between what paper ballots were casted and the totals From the tabulating machines, at least in my county, we would have seen it.
There is not just one election on election day, there are thousands of them. Most counties decide on what equipment to use and procedures to conduct their elections. To steal an election would require penetration of many, many different systems. While not totally impossible, it is incredibly difficult.
There are things that other states can implement to improve the reliability of their election process and I think they should be done. But I find the idea that the election was somehow stolen highly problematic.
Ideally it would be federal with uniform voting machines running the latest operating system and most recent security updates. We’re nowhere near that.
Ben Bradlee could have just as easily said “You don’t come after the king unless you are prepared to kill him,” something Merrick Garland unfortunately was unprepared to do.
I admire your cautious skepticism along with your deeply analytical approach to this question. Many are suspicious of the apparent realities surrounding this election but suspicions do not prove the case. Indeed as you said, if proven this would be a revelation of huge historic significance. So prove it we must. Thank you for your efforts in helping bring that level of proof to beyond an acceptable level.
I find this fascinating. Part of me thinks that the current guy talks about the former guy stealing an election is because that he knows that it can be done because it was done for him. There is a history of the current regime accusing the opposition of shenanigans whist performing those same Dirty Tricks.
This is exactly what they have been doing for years; perfecting the art of Projection! They accuse the opposition of doing exactly what they’re doing, so when the opposition claim fraud, it will fall on deaf ears.
I retired early at Silicon Valley and I still am friends with a few of the lead engineers. It's a possibility that the voting machines can be manipulated or can be connected to the internet.
Thank you for providing this clear eyed and reasoned analysis of the various scenarios for tabulation interference. I completely agree with you that there are enough loopholes in these scenarios to drive a truck through. It’s not enough to hypothesize about the various action pathways that may have been accessible at the time. For us to make any kind of ironclad case on this really would require a thorough review of the system activity logs that (may or may not) have been collected at the time of the election. As an old systems guy myself, I’m pretty sure those logs are long gone. Sadly, that means we will probably never know whether there was malfeasance or not. At this point the whole exercise strikes me a bit like trying to close the barn door after the horse is gone. It’s a question of priorities really. I think the world has moved on at this point. We should probably close the book on this whole thing.
That said, the scenarios also highlight the very real possibility that these action pathways have potential use cases in upcoming elections that we will be facing this year and in 2026. So I would warn everybody to use these scenario descriptions as a good way of identifying key points in the election process, specifically tabulations, that could be more thoroughly and accurately monitored during elections to prevent malfeasance of this kind.
It's too bad Christopher Steele wasn't as rigorous as you when he accepted probable KGB agent Igor Danchenko's "intel" on The Traitorous Orange Turd and his associates.
As someone outside of USA and a Brit, I have read this thread simply as intellectual curiosity. What I found is a case study in enquiry that gives, as far as I can see of course, careful weight to each ‘ claim’: I commend the author for rigour of analysis and great clarity of language in notoriously jargon filled territory. My thanks, and please keep going.
If you are interested in more, there are 2 more parts by this author and the comments are interesting. Also check out posts by This Will Hold. They are the group Michael Sellers mentions here.
The proof is in the pudding. Let's see how the vote inspection goes in the NY County that is being contested and whether it warrants spreading to a recount of the swing states
As I’ve stated previously, we apparently haven’t the technology to prove Trump an illegitimate president… we do know for certain that he’s a liar, cheat, career criminal, misogynist, racist, and a doddering old drug addled odious wastrel!!
Do remember Musk shut down numerous satellites right at the end of his Doge tenure . I , myself , can not believe this election was honest .. not with what happened at Ark Benton Co Centerton voting place. After seeing our votes ( my and partners ) change in their own ...just presidential pick from blue to red ...seeing it personally .. knowing it myself , and with it happening to others just as I described ,there's no way it was just a glitch ...no way it was coincidental, no way our vote for Kamala wasn't interfered with somehow. So please keep it up .....I for one ...and at least two others will never believe in this current Election that it wasn't compromised...
Hey there! Just wondering if I read your comment correctly. Are you saying that you actually saw your vote change from Harris to Trump? Or did I misunderstand? 🤔
Yes ...I voted blue all the way down ..without a doubt . Towards the end before I submitted the ballot , I realized the presidential choices had changed on its own to RED . I changed it back ,but since I voted all the way down ballot in blue ,it was obvious it had changed . Not really thinking about it other than thank God I realized it and how lucky I was to have seen that before I submitted (I hate Trump) and considered that if I'm hadn't caught it or if I had bad eyesight or was disabled I wouldn't have realized it . But that's where I just didn't think anything more since I had caught it . That was Tuesday a week before election. My partner voted on Saturday and we have a child and no sitter so we really didn't even talk about our experience voting until we went out to dinner the Sunday after the election . Then after a drink (or two) I told him what had happened and unbelievably he said the exact same thing happened to him . Exactly same thing . Presidential choice changed on its own from blue to Trump red .Then we realized it was suspicious . Because we live in a totally red state we just figured not much could be done. After speaking to my mom in Calif and she said we needed to report it ,she did and so did I .We contacted everyone we could (WH site . Waltz , Harris and Biden) left msgs and email notifications . After not hearing back my mom got the # for the DNC in Washington and I left a msg ,they called back and because we have tracking on our phones we were able to give them the complete date and time of voting .They checked and said yes our votes were verified as Democratic choices on our ballots. They did say there had been discrepancys reported . My mom then contacted Spoonmores site and a few others in substack . I've been following it closely since because I can't imagine this was just coincidental
😳 Maybe I shouldn't be shocked but I am! I have no idea what's possible on digital platforms but that just smells wrong! Thanks for explaining!
As the former chair of my local electoral board, here in Virginia, all ballots that are cast are on paper. The vote tabulating machines undergo logic and accuracy tests before the election, and the paper ballots are audited afterwards. If there was a discrepancy between what paper ballots were casted and the totals From the tabulating machines, at least in my county, we would have seen it.
There is not just one election on election day, there are thousands of them. Most counties decide on what equipment to use and procedures to conduct their elections. To steal an election would require penetration of many, many different systems. While not totally impossible, it is incredibly difficult.
There are things that other states can implement to improve the reliability of their election process and I think they should be done. But I find the idea that the election was somehow stolen highly problematic.
Thanks for weighing in. Your perspective is really helpful.
Ideally it would be federal with uniform voting machines running the latest operating system and most recent security updates. We’re nowhere near that.
Unís Virginia a swing state?
Ben Bradlee could have just as easily said “You don’t come after the king unless you are prepared to kill him,” something Merrick Garland unfortunately was unprepared to do.
I admire your cautious skepticism along with your deeply analytical approach to this question. Many are suspicious of the apparent realities surrounding this election but suspicions do not prove the case. Indeed as you said, if proven this would be a revelation of huge historic significance. So prove it we must. Thank you for your efforts in helping bring that level of proof to beyond an acceptable level.
I find this fascinating. Part of me thinks that the current guy talks about the former guy stealing an election is because that he knows that it can be done because it was done for him. There is a history of the current regime accusing the opposition of shenanigans whist performing those same Dirty Tricks.
This is exactly what they have been doing for years; perfecting the art of Projection! They accuse the opposition of doing exactly what they’re doing, so when the opposition claim fraud, it will fall on deaf ears.
Poignant Early!!
I retired early at Silicon Valley and I still am friends with a few of the lead engineers. It's a possibility that the voting machines can be manipulated or can be connected to the internet.
Thank you for providing this clear eyed and reasoned analysis of the various scenarios for tabulation interference. I completely agree with you that there are enough loopholes in these scenarios to drive a truck through. It’s not enough to hypothesize about the various action pathways that may have been accessible at the time. For us to make any kind of ironclad case on this really would require a thorough review of the system activity logs that (may or may not) have been collected at the time of the election. As an old systems guy myself, I’m pretty sure those logs are long gone. Sadly, that means we will probably never know whether there was malfeasance or not. At this point the whole exercise strikes me a bit like trying to close the barn door after the horse is gone. It’s a question of priorities really. I think the world has moved on at this point. We should probably close the book on this whole thing.
That said, the scenarios also highlight the very real possibility that these action pathways have potential use cases in upcoming elections that we will be facing this year and in 2026. So I would warn everybody to use these scenario descriptions as a good way of identifying key points in the election process, specifically tabulations, that could be more thoroughly and accurately monitored during elections to prevent malfeasance of this kind.
I think the most likely positive outcome would be improvements going forward and that’s what probably makes this an exercise in something useful.
It's too bad Christopher Steele wasn't as rigorous as you when he accepted probable KGB agent Igor Danchenko's "intel" on The Traitorous Orange Turd and his associates.
Technology that can interfere with the election can also erase their presence.
As someone outside of USA and a Brit, I have read this thread simply as intellectual curiosity. What I found is a case study in enquiry that gives, as far as I can see of course, careful weight to each ‘ claim’: I commend the author for rigour of analysis and great clarity of language in notoriously jargon filled territory. My thanks, and please keep going.
If you are interested in more, there are 2 more parts by this author and the comments are interesting. Also check out posts by This Will Hold. They are the group Michael Sellers mentions here.
Thanks, Brenda Appointing me to the earlier parts it really is an exceptional thread of inquiry. I’ll wander over to this will hold. Thanks again.
Also check out Election Truth Alliance. They are trying to get a hand recount in key counties within PA.
The proof is in the pudding. Let's see how the vote inspection goes in the NY County that is being contested and whether it warrants spreading to a recount of the swing states
Well written and documented. IF there is nothing to hide, then let’s investigate immediately!
Just like his fake assassination attempt, this requires an investigation.
Due diligence is required to the uttermost in this investigation. Keep at it.
As I’ve stated previously, we apparently haven’t the technology to prove Trump an illegitimate president… we do know for certain that he’s a liar, cheat, career criminal, misogynist, racist, and a doddering old drug addled odious wastrel!!
Exceptionally investigated and crafted piece!!
I really appreciate your analysis and insight on critical matters like this. Thank you.
Thank you. We need this. Thanks to all with the courage, discipline, practical knowledge and persistence to it simply find out.
To know.